CCP Striptease is teasing us even more.

So this almost reads to me as though they weren't designed with the client in mind and then put into the client to see how they looked at that scale... about about you design something with a vector starting at the scale of the client, and then expand it from there.

CCP Surge had indicated improvements to be made to the current set of icons. I haven't anything yet however, and today's patch must have been for some background / under the hood items, as I don't any effect from it. Hopefully they improved icons will be seen in test, and CCP will let players know about it so the ones that couldn't play anymore because of physical pain will return.

You kinda broke the ballistic control unit icon, please repair it so I can look at it again.

just for clarification, are all NPC filled or only friendly?

Except for sentry guns, right? If my eyes did'nt play tricks on me, the filled area of gate sentries are less oqaque when compared to ships.

I'm confused about why sentry guns were changed to blue too, this looks very strange as they're a different colour than the structure they protect.

...actually, this friendly blue(ish) colour is making me wonder... could you make it a different colour if they're hostile towards you because of security status, faction standing, militia and recent criminal activity? It's pretty weird to have NPCs that are actively hostile towards you be blue.

I'm thinking that 'blue hostiles' does sound needlessly confusing.

CCP Claymore! Please! Hear me!

The most problem with drones that they always OVER any other brekets.

Naga closer to me then drone.

Just make their priority very low.
1-st i want to see ship brekets over other else. No matter how far or close they are.

Why do we have 8 icons for asteroids when 1 was previously sufficient?

Part two of two

The rest of this report applies to all the screen tests I did.

The Sensor Overlay has three icons for Signatures, Landmarks and Anomalies, the Signature is very faint on the menu and almost impossible to see when in space, it is only the large circle surrounding it that gives it away.

The Anomaly and Landmark icons in the Sensor Overlay menu are almost the same colour to me and only have a brightness difference when alongside each other.
The in space representation of the icons are different because the Anomaly icon is very dim against the bright icon of the Landmark.

So what would help me, IGÇÖm not saying this will help others you will have to wait for their input to evaluate that.

I noticed while testing that frigate icons sometimes have 4 small GÇÿpointersGÇÖ at each corner of the icons, these are very faint, if these could be made bright for none hostile and say changed to the same colour as the GÇÿpointersGÇÖ on the landmark icons for hostiles, now that would be excellent. If they could be added to every hostile ship icon (just for colour blind people) that would help a lot.

The biggest thing I did notice while testing was GÇÿin space clutterGÇÖ, most of this was caused by myself not having my overview set up correctly (as kindly and politely pointed out in another thread).

ItGÇÖs not always the overview that is the problem but the Brackets that cause the problem.

To see everything in space we need GÇÿAll Brackets OnGÇÖ but this gives rise to clutter.

When we select a selection of ships, objects, whatever on the overview and then save that as a GÇÿPresetGÇÖ then only those icons will show in space, OK so far?

However what we donGÇÖt have at the moment is an easy way to save a GÇÿBrackets PresetGÇÖ so we can load an overview Preset setting of say GÇÿCombatGÇÖ and a Brackets setting of only XX ships, to highlight only those ships you need to concentrate on at the time.

I know it can be done but itGÇÖs a long winded way of doing it and there are so many new icons that selecting the ones you need can be confusing to say the least.
There are often times when you need something to appear on the overview but not GÇÿin spaceGÇÖ to reduce the clutter.

I donGÇÖt know if it would be possible or feasible to add an icon next to each ship (all items?) in the overview selection menu with a tick box to select it, then a GÇÿSave Brackets PresetGÇÖ with a name box etc would be ideal.

That way we would have an easy way of matching an item with an icon if you see what I mean. And it might/would help the learning process.

ThatGÇÖs it, nothing else to say except good luck everyone, no you canGÇÖt have my stuff, and I will keep an eye on the forums to see if I might return in the future, Regards BH.

Firstly colour blind, and run windowed mode on high settings at 5760 x 1080 (3x24GÇ¥) and UI at 100% (tried at 90%, cannot differentiate some of the smaller icons), transparency at 0 and blur on with Dark Matter theme. Before the new icons same settings (except UI was 90%) and no real dramas visually with the icon differences in overview or space.

The blue filled icons are visibly better both in space and in overview, however as mentioned by someone the gate guns could do with a slightly larger icon (or filled as well). The missile batteries themselves (mission, DED sites etc) likewise cannot see them in space if I am not right near them, and can only faintly see when they are aggressing in the overview. Also some of the red containers in sites are nearly invisible so not sure if these received thicker line strokes or not.

Blue Harrier mentioned this, GÇ£The Sensor Overlay has three icons for Signatures, Landmarks and Anomalies, the Signature is very faint on the menu and almost impossible to see when in space, it is only the large circle surrounding it that gives it awayGÇ¥. This is pretty much the same for myself as well.

Likewise still cannot really tell any difference between ship classes smaller than cruisers in the overview or space (they are essentially a faint blur). Good job on the drones though, great improvement.

It would help me a lot if more colors were added (for use via overview settings) to the backgrounds for overview. By shading neutrals and no-standings it helped a lot to pull tgem out of the busy over view in much the same way as hostikes, in fleet and corp do. The issue is that most existing colors have strong associations already (green, blue, yellow, red and purple all have strong meanings) so a few colors that do not have that sort of existing meaning would help a lot. Some browns, tans and greys would help a lot. Also an option to shade only the icon column and not tge entire name would be nice.

Excuse me, something "wrong"? PVP isn't wrong.

Didn't read all posts, just my feedback ...

What I like, the blue color of "friendly" NPCs ... what I don't like is the blurred border and solid fill. What was the reason for that? For me the frame with light fill was more crisp (especially D and BC), and with red/blue they can't be confused with players anymore. For the drones ... I think it is a step back with unification, helpful would be a clear separation of combat/ewar (only ECs are used here anyway) and size.

In general I have found the solution for me by coloring all players, not having another color, with orange background. So I can use the icon diversity as secondary information, which works quite well.

Soo,

the mess with battleship, cruiser, dread and titan icons. Is there any chance that we can fix that?
cruiser and dread look to much alike, leaving battleships being the odd, slowpoke cousin in the middle.
There are enough nice ideas here to get it right. CCP employs consistency when renaming stuff and balancing all the time. Please don't fall short of that when redesigning your interface.

Frankly, no, it is not 'better'....it just adds waay more clutter than is needed. Why does the Survey Scanner exist? Because if someone wants to know (other than just by looking at the physical size in space) which rock has more in it, they can, otherwise, if they simply don't care...they don't fit the module.

As to the usefulness of cluttering the overview with many superfluous icons to 'inform' them as to which rocks are 'better'...do you have plans to do this same thing with all ship brackets, so that way people don't have to remember which ships are kitting ships and which are brawlers off the top of their head? (please don't do this btw, just using it as an example as to why too much info everywhere isn't always the best thing)

Pretty quickly new miners learn what they need to mine, just like every other profession in Eve. There is no need to add pointless clutter. (which they also have to memorize before they get the benefits of it too) Just like we didn't need 27 separate drone icons...a single icon for asteroids is sufficient...

i actually re-plexed my account so i could at least see what the upcoming changes to the changes were going to be like, i wish i hadnt bothered.

Sorry CCP, but you really have dropped the ball with this one.

Maybe this is what frustrates us players the most, there was over 12 pages of feedback (of the very constructive side) from the 3-4 weeks this mess was on SiSi, then over 90 pages of feedback from after it hit TQ, not to mention the feedback you got earlier this spring from the first ISIS version (icon for literally every single different thing ever)...

Yet you still seem to not understand what it is exactly that isn't good about this "minor icon swap." Go back and re-read those three relevant threads, and you will know 100% what we don't like.

Yes, this current turd is more polished than the previous, but it is still a turd, and you are still trying to tell us its not, simply because you are trying to polish it.

Have to say, I got used to the new icon set by now. Some icons are rather silly though. The freighter looks like a small soldier head with a helmet on. And the stick men? I would prefer something more serious. All in all it seems we are back to space invaders and asteroids now. But thats fine by me.

A bit more of a futuristic or technological look would be nice. Maybe some lines a bit wider. And maybe you should use a vector format for the icons which could be rendered when the client starts or when the scale factor is changed.

Strange, law enforcement NPCs are back to being white on sisi. Depots still have the new icon so I don't... think this is a rollback? Mind saying what's going on?

Looking into this now, it was not intentional.